Thursday, February 4, 2010

What is worst false doctrine to infiltrate Christianity?: the trinity, hell, pre-tribulation rapture, the cros

the trinity,


hell,


pre-tribulation rapture,


the cross of Tammuz,


the Ichthys (Pisces sign),


Sunday as the Sabbath,


the use of graven images (sculptures),


an ';earthly Father,';


__other__





I know...this should be in the ';polls and surveys'; section, but the ';polls and surveys'; section is in the ';music'; section.What is worst false doctrine to infiltrate Christianity?: the trinity, hell, pre-tribulation rapture, the cros
None are worse than the other. They are all false teachings of Christendom and have no backing in Gods Holy Scriptures. 2 Peter 2:1 states:


1.) However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among YOU. These very ones will quietly bring in destructive sects and will disown even the owner that bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves.What is worst false doctrine to infiltrate Christianity?: the trinity, hell, pre-tribulation rapture, the cros
The only one on the list that would qualify as an ';infiltration'; is the rapture nonsense, which started in the 19th Century. All the others have been integral to Christianity since the First Century. It is the rejection of these original Christian beliefs and practices that has infiltrated Christianity - but only the unauthorized, manmade forms of Christianity that exist in open defiance of the stated will of God, ';that they all may be ONE';. The true Christian Church still embraces all elements of original Christianity, and rejects manmade traditions like rapture theology.
Pre-trib rapture is one:





According to Scripture...The 'rapture ' of the Church occurs simultaneously with Christ's second Coming in glory and the resurrection of the dead.............All occur together,(see I Thess. 4:15-17); ...';AFTER the Tribulation of those days';(Matt. 24:29-31)


';...At the LAST trumpet';... I Corin. 15:52





Don't be deceived by the fictional ';Left Behind'; series....which is based on a common misconception that claims the 'rapture' occurs years before Christ's Return. This is not found in Scripture.
you have pointed out some good things.


I think the worse thing is their reference to ';hell';


( ones that have gotten mad:please research what the words ';Gehenna'; and ';Sheol'; mean. the words originally used. That is ,used until King James wanted to change them from the original Hebrew)


This word has instilled fear for too many years!





one more point: ';rapture';


please, give me a break - I thought everyone knew that word wasn't in the bible!
Probably the rapture





The doctrine of the rapture continues to be an important component in fundamentalist Christian eschatology today. Many fundamentalist Christians continue to feel that world conditions point to the rapture, Tribulation, and return of Christ occurring soon.
All good examples, I can't choose one. Maybe hell, (I assume you mean a burning one?) because it not believable to reasonable people, so they think they aren't good Christians if they don't believe in it, as well as the glee with which those that really DO believe it proclaim it to others.
All of the above!


None of them have anything to do with true Christianity, all have been ideas and practises from false religion, adopted into the Catholic church to make it easier for those who were conquer to accept Christianity.
Can't pick one.


I really dislike how convenient Satan has made it for people to get their 'ears tickled'.


I really dislike how he manipulates people into all these Unscriptural traditions.


Most of all, I hate how he has provided a way for the ';Christian'; leaders to BLESS KILLING!
That we can all become God's when we die- Mormanism. I have no idea why you mentioned hell as one of them. Even most atheists agree that the bible teaches about hell. Universalism was not taught in the early church, sorry.
The pre-tribulation rapture.





That's not even Christian doctrine. Most Christians do not believe in it.;-0
A pre-tribulation rapture.
They are all wrong.





Hey- does Vot see an Episcopalian + Anglican pagan?
Theism
What about doing all those things and still claiming they serve Jesus who condemned serving other gods than his father?
All man made. It is ALL false.
The Trinity exists.





The Bible resumes Christian believe ';Baptize in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost';


(The Name designs the substance: God)





If you don't believe to the holy Bible take the koran.


It says ';Jesus is the Word of God';.


As a Christian I ask: Is this Word created, then the God of the Koran was without word before the creation.





Because Muslim don't want to believe they say ';No the Koran is our Word of God. It is not created.';





So they prefere to have a Book as God at the place of Jesus.


(...and there is ABSOLUTELY NO ARGUMENT in the Koran, for saying, that the Koran was not created.)





Romans, Greeks, Agypts were polytheists, like your Mohammed before he found the Richness and Power of Kadidscha.





The Trinity is Monotheism.


But I didn't find one Mulim who understands that. How do you want to argue against Christians, if you don't understand their teaching. I understand your theology. Look in the Holy Bible, look in your stupid Koran. Please convert from the Lier Mohammed to the Truth, that it Jesus. Follow your Koran and accept that Jesus is God and not the Koran, a book without intelligence.





Yes in the catholic church we have mysteries. In the Koran there are none. All things moslims believe about God Aristotle could prove it without revelation. The Koran is completely empty. Because it doesn't contain anything you need a revelation for. Moslim have to believe what intelligent men like Aristotle can prove, because moslim are not intelligent enough to understand the proves of Aristotle.





Aristotle has proved the Monotheism without any revelation.


A revelation you need only for the Trinity and the Hypostatic Union BECAUSE they are mysteries.





The Moslim have killed billions and billions of people for a false revelation that contained a Monotheism that the killed people were able to prove without revelation.


The stupid Koran is completely useless because the monotheism it contains doesn't need any revelation.





And Aristotle doesn't need satanic verses and polytheistic Godesses at the Kaaba to explain what monotheism is.





Revelation and Mystery go together.(HOLY BIBLE)


Revelation without mystery is useless. (KORAN)





BIBLE





The proofs of the bible are very many. I have given them here in Yahoo so many times.


If you don't accept one it's up to you to prove why.


Jesus is the Son of God. The Word that is God. Jesus is before Abraham was. Jesus and the Father are one. The Baptism is in the only name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Jesus can forgive sins, exorcise, make miracles by his own authority. He is resurrected from the deads. The Church he has founded confirms his divinity. ...


The Fathers of the councils of the church have confirmed what they have learned from Jesus.





One example that is seldom used: Letter to the Hebrews (Jews)


2,9:


Only for a short time he was HUMILIATED under the angels.





This says it was a HUMILIATION for the Christ to be under the Angels for a short time (Incarnation until Ascension).


But the other time he was ABOVE the angels. This is about the divinity:





5,5 God says: My Son are you, ...


(This is from the OLD Testament, also the TRUE jews believed that, our fathers of the Old Testament!!!)
Not:


Trinity - have you not heard of the Creed of St Athanasius? (it can be found online at http://www.saintgabriels.org/bcp/hist.ht鈥?/a> ) [adopted very early in church history]


Not:


the Ichthys - have you not heard that in Greek the letters for Icthys (Iota, Chi, Theta, Upsilon, Sigma) very conveniently spell out the first letters of ';Jesus Christ God's Son Savior'; when those words are written in Greek? And what with all the fishermen (Peter, James, Andrew, John) following Jesus, surely the early church would have an easy time connecting the symbol of a Fish to someone who called people to be fishers of people!





Not:


Sunday - Sunday isn't a Sabbath, it is a mini celebration of Easterday (the reason that Lenten abstinences and observances don't apply on Sundays). Sabbath is the day of rest observed by Jews on Saturday.





By the way:


a statue is just a statue until someone actually treats it as an idol, and if they do, that is that one person's fault not the fault of the entire church (well it might also be the fault of one's Sunday School teacher and parents for not teaching one not to do such tings)





and





';the cross of Tammuz'; So a name in the OT gets a capital T in English and the Greek letter Tau just happens to look like a captial T but there is no letter in Hebrew that looks like a captial T. And none of that changes the fact that the Cross is an ancient Christian symbol for very good reason. And how does anyone know that the ';symbol'; of Tammuz was a cross of any shape or anything that looked like a T? The word ';cross'; appears nowhere in Ezekiel 8 (NRSV - http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=75303074)





And as to ';earthly father'; - even if one's momma used a sperm bank one still has a father. Can't have a kid without an egg and a sperm. Biologically impossible.
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