Sunday, February 7, 2010

Can you be a Christian & believe in the False doctrine called Trinity ?

The origin and evolution of the trinity:





1. Babylon.


Triad of Sin (the moon god), Shamash (the sun god), and Ishtar (goddess of love and fertility).


2nd millennium B.C.E.





2. Egypt.


Triad of Horus, Osiris, Isis, 2nd millennium B.C.E.





3. Palmyra.


Triad of moon god, Lord of Heavens, sun god, c. 1st century C.E.





4. India.


Triune Hindu godhead





5. Kampuchea.


Triune Buddhist godhead





6. Council of Nicaea


Trinity (Father, Son, holy spirit), c. 325 C.E.Can you be a Christian %26amp; believe in the False doctrine called Trinity ?
i knew it, you weren't looking for real answers

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Can you be a Christian %26amp; believe in the False doctrine called Trinity ?
Am not a native English speaker, but i found this question boggling. Do you mean --Can you be a Christian and believe that (Holy) Trinity is false or a false teaching?





Anyway, I guess there are protestants denominations who call themselves Christians do believed the Trinity is false :)





On the other hand, how will you believed it to be true when you already described it as false?
You apparently haven't read Isaiah 9.





The Trinitarian doctrine was created to absolve Jesus of not being called 'Eternal Father' and therefore not the Messiah.





You need to read up on Augustine and why he adopted and helped refine Trinitarian doctrine.





The Ten Commandments require it. Jesus cannot be the Messiah and not be a God, and the OT specifically claims that there is only 1 God.





Trinitarianism is the only way Christians can accept Jesus as the Messiah.





In reality none of it works because it is an attempt to combine Hellenism, Roman religion and Judaism into a consolidated belief. That is why it is continually contradictory and Christian Apologetics is such a large field of study.
False doctrine ?


Surely not !





Thar's crazy talk !


Believing in invisible, omnipotent, etherial beings that bend the laws of time %26amp; physics ?





I suggest you try readin more than one book. You may pick up a smidgeon of knowledge here %26amp; there.


Origin of the Species is a good place to start.





Go in peace my friends.
Any belief of the Trinity is the teaching of the Devil.


So is the foolish monkey Rapture Belief.





@thumbs downs..lol





The fact is the Trinity Belief stems from Pharoah that is what he believed in. So if your Following the same God as Moses who said that belief was incorret and that he was only ONE then you can't be following GOD but your Father the DEVIL.
God is a trinity of persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is not the same person as the Son; the Son is not the same person as the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit is not the same person as Father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons; yet, they are all the one God. Each has a will, can speak, can love, etc., and these are demonstrations of personhood. They are in absolute perfect harmony consisting of one substance. They are coeternal, coequal, and copowerful. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God.
False doctrine? You mean the doctrine that Jesus outlined when He said to baptise people in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?





John 1: ';in the beginning was the word, the word was with God and the word was God...the word became flesh and dwelt among us';.





Those who read, and believe, the bible, understand that the trinity is.....in the bible.
You have to have some sort of false doctrine to be a christian, but it is true that this idea wasn't expressed until more than half a century after the bible was written. There is no reference to the trinity being one being in any Bible, the question does make it obvious as to how many christians are not familiar with their book.
Rofl you say that the Trinity is not false because of the bible? Rofl you need to prove that the bible is real xD and you have to believe in Trinity to be christian which is why im athiest(and there is no proof for god). All you religious freaks need to learn how to prove god without the bible, or else ill never believe in him.
Its a pity that Christians have no clue where this idea of a ';trinity'; comes from.





Comes from Osiris the Father, Isis the Mother and Horus the Son.


All 3 part of Ra.





In fact nothing in Christianity is unique in anyway, it is all copied from various pagan religions.
Lots of Christians don't even know what the Trinity doctrine teaches yet they worship Christ as God and revere the Holy Spirit. Lots of other people who say they are Christians don't know what the Trinity doctrine teaches either, yet they denounce it as satanic and pagan. Well, just because imitation is the insincerest form of flattery in the devil's hand is no reason to loose the plot! If God was not triune, Satan would not have his plethora of trinities to confuse us, would he? Get wise to his tactics, man! (she said, kissing 10 points goodbye...)
If you're a true Christian you'll have the leading of the Holy Spirit to discern whether or not the so called Trinity is a false doctrine. According to the Bible we are all spiritually dead because of sin having a carnal mind. And we need to be revived again by empowering Holy Spirit and be born again to become spiritually alive, believing on our Lord Jesus Christ by then we will know of the doctrine.
*cough* it isn't a false doctrine *cough*





got a question for you.... if we were made in God's image... and we are a trinity (we are made up of a body, soul (mind), and spirit) why can't God?





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your not really looking for real answers i take it... only people who agree with you....


thats sad...
I'm curious to know, because I haven't found it yet, exactly where in the bible it says





';You must believe That God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit are all the same person otherwise you cannot be a follower of Christ';.





I don't think it's in the bible.....





Also, if the trinity is seperate but equal, why does Jesus say


at John 14:28 ';the Father is greater than I';





And why is he constantly referred to as the Son of God.
I'm a Christian, and i don't believe in trinity. trinity was a catholic doctrine, and its not written in the bible. God-the father; creator. Jesus-son; the savior.
The Trinity is not a ';false doctrine.';


I am a Christian and believe in the God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
How is it possible for there to such enormous disagreement over the most fundamantal definition of what it means to be Christian? Can it possibly be because its ALL utter and complete nonsense?
Without the belief in the Trinity, you don't have Christianity... And I believe your information is incorrect... False doctrine is not the Holy Trinity... False doctrine is anything other than what the Bible says... ( just so you know )
Oh u r asking of that....... I don't believe in Christianity.!!!!!!!!


Think from your mind. God having son.................. It have no meaning. If u have The piece TV on your cable. Watch it . There is a man named Dr. Zakir Naik. He will tell which is the best religious in the world. Hope u understand.
In a way, yes there is a trinity, and God is three in one. He is everything in one. Jesus is God in the same way that I am my own father. I am directly from, my blood is his blood, my body was made from his body, but I am not him. I have my own mind, I choose whether i mind him. I am free to do as i please, but i can still talk to him.





Just like Jesus was with His Father. In every way he was his father, except that he was not his father. That is why Jesus never refered to God as himself. He always said my father.





He also prayed to his father. If he was God, would he even need to pray. No.





The Holy Spirit is something that most people call a conscience. And yes it is too God, but in the same way it is not. God made it, it is of God, God uses it, but it is not God himself.





I am not a JW, or anything like that. I just don't accept the doctrine that some Roman emperor, that wated down Christianity and changed its beliefs and holidays to make it more convenient for pagans to join, made in with a pagan council and not through prayer and spiritual guidance from God.
Without belief in the Trinity...you cannot be a Christian.











I must concur completely.








If you wish to deny either the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit thats up to you.
i dont believe in the trinity thing, wlel im not christian anyways, but i dont believe in the false doctrine because i believe it limits God's power.
The word Trinity is not found in the bible!





The word Godhead is found!





Rom 1:20


Col 2:9


Acts 17:29





Any follower of God beliefs in the Godhead!
A Christian will believe in the Trinity, because it is not false doctrine.





The Lord said, Let US make man in OUR image. Who was God talking to if Jesus and Holy Spirit were not there? Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing.
The trinity is Christianity and if you are Christian you believe in God the Father the Son and the Holy spirit 'The Trinity' all three separate but all equal and as Christians we Reject Satan!.
Believing in the Trinity makes you a Christian. It is not however a false doctrine. You have given no evidence for this belief.
You cannot be a Christian while rejecting the core beliefs of Christianity, including the Trinity.
Last I checked, the Trinity was one of the foundamental doctrines of Christianity.
Trinity is not a false doctrine. We have many examples of the Triune God throughout the Bible.
Since the trinity teaching is a lie then how can someone worship God in Spirit and Truth?





The trinity god is NOT the God of the Bible.
Christianity is not belief of Jesus but beleif of paul about Jesus.





So, you cannot be a christian by definition by rejecting trinity. However, You can't follow Jesus by accepting trinity.

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