Sunday, February 7, 2010

Rapture is false doctrine?

i have a question


if there is a rapture before the 7 year tribulation, then why does the bible say ';woe unto them who are with child and give suck in those days';





ur probably going to say, ';they had babies after the rapture





well jesus also said ';i pray you do not take them out of the world but keep them from the evil one';





the bible also says ';immediatelty after the tribulation of those days,,... you shal see the son of man..';





also it says ';he who endures until the end the same shall be saved';





and jesus said as the days of noah were..


God PROTECTED his righteous,. he didnt rapture them..





What did God use whena flood came?


A BOAT





what did he use when he sent fire to lots city?


Angels





i have a feeling angels might come during the tribulation to help..





sorry for ranting.


im really bored.


any opinions?Rapture is false doctrine?
The rapture is a concept created from an interpretation of scripture. I don't believe in the rapture for many reasons, but one huge factor in that is god doesn't work that way. His righteous are constantly tested and given trials to make them stronger so that when the day comes that he does return, or pre-second coming disasters, his righteous will be able to be an example and a light unto those who need him. There are people who were so righteous they were taken up without knowing death, but as for those of us living in the last days, we are needed here to prepare for that day and teach our children so they might be prepared.Rapture is false doctrine?
Nobody will be spared the battle of Armageddon except ';all the tribes of the Children of Israel'; who are specifically named in the bible. Some nuts took that idea of being spared the final battle and called it the rapture and convinced their modern followers that they were the said 144,000.


If they are going to take the book of Revelation literally, maybe they should actually read it.


Once you read it you should know that it cannot be taken literally.
';Rapture'; was invented in the 1700s by Philip Doddridge and John Gill.





That makes it no more (or no less) absurd than any other ';biblically-derived'; notion, but it IS a generally more entertaining one given that biblically-based predictions of its date have all been ';epic fails';...
babies: they have babies and they are left on earth for the evil one while the parents are raptured





rapture is protection, rapture means u go poof up to heaven and dont have to stay on earth with the anti-christ





i too agree angels and a select few (soldiers of god) will be sent back to earth to help the ';left behind'; maybe the raptured have a choice to go tho heaven or to go back and help- just my opinion





good luck
If you want to believe it, then believe it. If you don't want to believe it, then don't believe it. Aren't you capable of letting someone disagree with you, or do you have to be like a four-year-old, and make everybody think the same thing you do to feel secure?





Lame.
The rapture theology is not scriptural. It was unheard of for the first 18oo yrs of Christianity. An Irish protestant made it up in about 1840, and American evangelicals hav locked onto it
those people did not make the rapture


He is talking to the Jews


God will protect them through the rapture like Noah
The Rapture is not in the bible.
Your right, the rapture is false doctrine.
Jesus said that He will come back not that there will be a ';rapture';
My understanding is that True Believers:


';shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.'; 1 Thessalonians 4:17





I take this to mean we will be gone for the 7 years of tribulation and the subsequent Armageddon. After Armageddon Christ will return to earth in a physical form and lead the earth for a thousand years.





During the tribulation (7 years) it will really suck, but there will still be people that become True Believers in Jesus and will go to Heaven when they die.





As for your first quote: ';woe unto them who are with child and give suck in those days';





I take this to mean that times will be so bad during the tribulation if they are not taken up they will have to live to see their baby suffer and possibly die (probably the worst thing that could happen to a mother).





I do believe that the rapture is the next big event on God's calender. {I Thessalonians 4:13-18; I Corinthians 15:51-54; Matthew 24:15-22.}





This is what I have come to believe from studying The Scripture and discussing the meanings with others.





I hope this helps, it's just one man's opinion.
raptureready.com it will anwser any questions you have....








';woe unto them who are with child and give suck in those days';:To this yes,i say that it is for those in the tribulation.Because then there would be a child born which is bad.








';i pray you do not take them out of the world but keep them from the evil one';:There will be 144,000,but not the church.The church is not appointed to wrath.





';immediatelty after the tribulation of those days,,... you shal see the son of man..';:Yes he will come again with his saints and every eye will see him.





also it says ';he who endures until the end the same shall be saved';:Those that become christians during the tribulation.





and jesus said as the days of noah were..


God PROTECTED his righteous,. he didnt rapture them..:This isnt the flood,this is the end of the Fleshly world as we know it,over done.Theres no need for us to stay on this horrible earth,


Jesus said:For where i am thou shall aslo be!Thats in heaven.Not in the tribulation.





What did God use whena flood came?


A BOAT:The flood is not coming....





what did he use when he sent fire to lots city?


Angels:No fire to lots city this time.....





i have a feeling angels might come during the tribulation to help..:No sadly not.
I think the Rapture is a real thing that is biblical. However, I believe the rapture occurs when Jesus Christ returns, and the Book of Revelation shows Jesus Christ returning towards the end of the great tribulation:





Revelation 19:11 聽露And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.


12 聽His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.


13 聽And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.


14 聽And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.


15 聽And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.


16 聽And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.


17 聽And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;


18 聽That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.


19 聽And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.


20 聽And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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