The Holy Trinity: is it divine truth or false doctrine?

I was just reading about a guy who thinks the Trinity is totally false and baseless!





But its the teaching that I grew up with.





To me, it doesn't matter all that much because I simply believe that Jesus Christ was and is God.





Can someone help me here?The Holy Trinity: is it divine truth or false doctrine?
It's significant that some answerers here, who deny the Trinity doctrine, also call the Holy Spirit 'it' and think 'it' is nothing more than power, like a bolt of electricity. And then they wonder why they don't believe the Trinity doctrine....





God has graciously chosen to reveal something of Himself over the centuries and that revelation culminated in the Person of Christ. 'Whoever has seen me has seen the Father' he said. Several times religious leaders tried to kill him for his blasphemous claims - well, they WOULD have been blasphemous if they had not been true! Jesus read the hearts of men - something only God can do. He said nobody comes to the Father except through him. He accepted worship while on earth: Thomas exclaiming 'My Lord and my God!' received no rebuke from him! But when the apostle John fell down before mere angels, they rebuked him. Jesus is no created angel, as many anti-Trinitarians teach. Neither is he a demi-god for the Bible abhors polytheism.





It is only when we realise WHO died for our sins on Calvary that the enormity of our sin hits us. God, in Christ, was reconciling the world to himself. We fall down in adoration. All heaven's throngs worship Him who sits on the Throne AND the Lamb, in the centre of that Throne (Rev. ch 5). To worship Christ is to worship God. To refuse to worship Christ is to deny God the honor He is due. Jesus said, 'For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. Moreover, the Father judges no-one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him' (John 5:19-30).The Holy Trinity: is it divine truth or false doctrine?
False Doctrine. God the father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are three separate beings. One in purpose and in spirit but three different beings.
Doctrine does not make one a believer. The Holy Spirit reveals the truth in the devout.





The word Christ literally means '; The Anointed One';.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ





To be true Christian we are anointed of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is our guide and comforter.





When we speak of Christ we are speaking of what makes Him Christ. We are Christian because we are of Christ.











See if you can understand this passage. Pay particular attention to 2 John 1:9 .


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea…








This also relates to the eternal sin, the only blasphemy that cannot be forgiven.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_sin





There is no need to make up doctrine, but it is necessary to fully understand the relationship between the Father, the Son ,and especially the Holy Spirit.





Those people who distrust the Holy Spirit within their flesh are distrustful of Jesus as Messiah and are not demonstrating the blessings of God.
You are asking for help but then you say it doesn't matter because you believe in the Trinity. So no matter what we say to you will continue to believe. Do yourself a favor and do some research as to how this doctrine came about. Start with Council of Nicea 325 C.E.
Sure can. The Holy Trinity is real.... People who don't believe it or are having a hard time understanding it is because they try to make sense of everything..... Even in the simplest things we aren't going to understand it all. Everything will make sense once we get to Heaven...And then I don't think that it will make much difference....
The teaching of the trinity is not Biblical. It was concieved long after the death of Jesus and brought into the ';Christian'; faith. Many try to point to particular scriptures to prove it, but the bottom line is, it is a man-made belief.





Jesus taught that the Father was greater than he was. (John 14:28) And there is no proof that Jesus ever tried to go against the earlier teachings that God is one (Det. 4:1).
It depends on exactly what you mean by Holy Trinity. If you mean that God, Christ, and the Holy Ghost are ';one'; as in one person physically, I think it's false doctrine. They each are their own person. However, they are ';one'; in their purpose, ';one'; in what they teach, etc. Jesus Christ is God, but there is also a God the Father. They are both gods. Sometimes in the scriptures when the writers said ';God'; they meant Jesus Christ and sometimes they meant God the Father. So, I don't think the idea is baseless, just taken a little too far.
The Trinity doctrine includes the following definite ideas:





1. There are said to be three divine persons—the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit—in the Godhead.





2. Each of these separate persons is said to be eternal, none coming before or after the other in time.





3. Each is said to be almighty, with none greater or lesser than the other.





4. Each is said to be omniscient, knowing all things.





5. Each is said to be true God.





6. However, it is said that there are not three Gods but only one God.





Search as you may, you will not find one scripture that uses the word Trinity, nor will you find any that says that Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom. Not even a single scripture says that the Son is equal to the Father in those ways—and if there were such a scripture, it would establish not a Trinity but at most a “duality.” Nowhere does the Bible equate the holy spirit with the Father.
Does it matter?





Believe what you believe in and be happy.
To believe in the trinity of God %26amp; it is an essential in christianity, some people say they are christians yet don't believe in the trinity. Jesus said to baptize the new desciples in the name of the Father %26amp; of the Son %26amp; of the Holy Spirit, Jesus also said ask anything of the Father in My name %26amp; I will give it to you. When Jesus was baptized the fullness of the Trinity was present. What more proof does anyone need if they recieve it by faith. Peace!!!
The 'teaching' that you grew up with was an early indoctrination in life to imprint these superstitions deep into your psyche. So, while you will grow up and probably be an intelligent and rational being, you will still find that you completely and totally accept some bronze age myth about a god- even though there isn't a shred of evidence that it is true.





but, that's ok. You're in good company. Lots of people believe in supernatural deities. Just be nice to others and don't impose your particular religion on others.
Well, I have seen here people with the weirdest ideas.





As we say in my country, ';some people talk because they have a mouth, but nothing useful comes out'; ';Such people function with a single brain cell, which they use to walk, breath, and hear, but when they are doing something else, that brain cell is so busy that it cannot think. Therefore, the words lack any sense or any meaning';





The idea of the Holy Trinity is written in Matthew at the end, 28, 19.


Also John mentions it in 1, 1 to 18





About the Trinity there have been many interpretations, but perhaps the best is that: ';God is so above us that we cannot understand Him completely. It would be like trying to make a blind man understand the meaning of ';colors'; or a deaf person what is ';music';.





There is a story about San Agustin de Hipona, who was not a Catholic, and struggled with the idea of the Holy Trinity, among others, striving to understand it.


One day, Agustin was walking on the sea shore, thinking, when he came across a little boy who was pouring sea water into a hole.


Agustin asked the boy what was he doing, and the boy answered that he was trying to put all the sea water into the hole.


Aguistin told the boy that that was impossible, it could not be done.


Then, according to the story, the little boy told him:


';Agustin, it is easier for me to pour all the sea water into this hole than it is for you to understand the Mysteries of God';
Can you give me a clear way to distinguish ';divine truth'; from ';false doctrine';. I thought these two meant the same thing.
Can you Imagine Peter saying this to God Almighty....


'; ‘Be kind to yourself, Lord; you will not have this destiny at all.’ But, turning his back, Jesus said to Peter: ‘Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me, because you think, not God’s thoughts, but those of men.’”—Matt. 16:21-23.





Imagine Peter Counselling the Creator?.........I THINK NOT.!!!
Jesus can't be God because he worships, prays and asks the Father for help and guidance. The true God doesn't ask for help, doesn't get tired, is eternal (no start, no beginning, no end). Jesus had a start.





This Father figure is the real God, also called Allah in arabic.