Sunday, February 7, 2010

Is the Trinity Bible Doctrine or False Doctrine?

Jesus said at John 14:28 ';the Father is greater than I am'; These interesting because those who teach the Trinity say that God Jesus and Holy Spirit are One and Equal. Jesus himself says the Father (God) is greater, so how can the Trinity be Bible Doctrine.Is the Trinity Bible Doctrine or False Doctrine?
God is a trinity of persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is not the same person as the Son; the Son is not the same person as the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit is not the same person as Father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons; yet, they are all the one God. Each has a will, can speak, can love, etc., and these are demonstrations of personhood. They are in absolute perfect harmony consisting of one substance. They are coeternal, coequal, and copowerful. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God.Is the Trinity Bible Doctrine or False Doctrine?
God is Three in One. Constantine convened Nicaea because of the turmoil in the empire. The Trinity was not created by Nicaea, but it is the preserved tradition passed on from the disciples. Thirdly if Christ is not God then how could the disciples baptize in His name if he was just a creature?
It is 100% false doctrine.
Its a work of the Devil. How can the God of the Bible be a Mystery?


King David said these words among others about God to his son Solomon..'; “If you search for him, he will let himself be found by you; ..” (1 Chronicles 28:9)


Why would God allow Man to Search for him if he is a Mystery?


And who would you be searching for- Jesus, the Holy Spirit or the Father?


.. See How confusing it is? We know this- that the God of the Bible is a God of Order... not disorder.( I Cor 14:33)
The trinity doctrine is obviously ridiculous, it is logically unsound and can be debunked easily with bible scripture.





What interests me though is that no Trinitarians have attempted to answer this question, yet there are thumbs down.
Trinity doctrine is a mix of mono- %26amp; polytheism. Sort of a compromise to please everybody.





And Jesus never claimed to be God.
trinity is based on interpretation by the council of nicea - a gathering of religious leaders from the time to determine philosophical doctrine.
I refer to my answer here.





http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;…
False
The teachings of the Church contradict the teachings of Jesus (pbuh) and that is the cause of the confusion.


If a sincere christian who wants to follow Jesus (peace be upon him), asks priests about trinity, the answer that he gets is ';It is a Mystery, not explained by Jesus (pbuh) clearly';, at that time again those forget that Jesus (pbuh) said,





';I spoke openly to the world. I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where the Jews always meet, and in secret I have said nothing'; (John 18:20 (NKJ)).





If trinity is confusing enough to be called a mystery, it cannot be from God. Because:


';God is not a God of confusion.';—1 Corinthians 14:33, Revised Standard Version (RS).





There was no mystery in the message of Jesus (pbuh), nothing secret. Will you accept the priests' so called ';mystery of trinity'; and forget clear commandments of Jesus (pbuh)?





Jesus (pbuh) clearly said:





A) Mark 12:29: ';the Lord our God, the lord is One';.


B) Metthew: 26:39: ';He went a little farther and fell on His face and prayed'; (Following Jesus (pbuh) way is following what he did). Jesus (pbuh) prayed to one God


C) Matthew 4:10 ';You shall worship the Lord, your God, and him only you shall serve';


D) John 5:19: ';Most truly I say to you, the son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative but only what he beholds the father doing.';


E) John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me


F) Matthew 27:46: ';Eloi (Allah?) , Eloi, lama sabachthani?'; -- which means, ';My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?';


(G)Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: John 8:54








The trinity is a doctrine from about the year 325 AD, It has its roots in polytheism, It is not in the bible unless you really, really stretch it to fit. Jesus didn't have to hide the concept of trinity if it were the basis of salvation.





The New Catholic Encyclopedia - 1967, VOL. XIV, PAGE 299:


The formulation ';one God in three Persons'; was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, PRIOR TO THE END OF THE 4TH CENTURY. But it is precisely this formulation that first claimed to title ';The Trinitarian Dogma. AMONG THE APOSTOLIC FATHERS, THERE HAD BEEN NOTHING EVEN REMOTELY APPROACHING SUCH A MENTALITY OR PERSPECTIVE.








You should not accept the word “son” literally . Word ';son'; was used in bible for general human beings and other prophets also. ';we all are the children of father in heavens'; indicates that word ';son'; was used in different meaning of love and care. Mathew: 5:9. ';Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the sons of God.”








Jesus , Moses, Mohammad (peace be upon them), they all worshiped the same God, the God of Ibrahim (pbuh). All prophets taught ';surrendering one's will to God'; that is the meaning of word ';Islam';. JAMES 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.








Muslims love Jesus (pbuh), they believe in his miraculous birth with the will of God without a father or sexual act (the way Adam was born without a mother and father), , they believe in miracles that Jesus (pbuh) performed with permission of God, muslims faith demands them to believe Jesus (pbuh) was a great prophet of God and belief in the original message of Jesus (pbuh) the massaya.





There was just not one holy book sent by God on earth through His messengers. The last testiment ';Quran'; had to be there from the same source, revealed to the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh), an illiterate person who didn't know how to read or write) some 600 years after Jesus (pbuh) corrects the errors that crept (knowingly or unknowingly) into the message that Jesus (pbuh) brought. Unlike Bible that was written after decades after Jesus by people who never met Jesus, this book was not preserved on paper or in one church but in hearts of thousands of muslims who memorised Quran word by word the way it was revealved. Quran should prove to be a very valuable asset to both Muslims and Christians.





Quran: [4:171] O people of the scripture, do not transgress the limits of your religion, and do not say about GOD except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus (pbuh), the son of Mary, was a messenger of GOD, and His word that He had sent to Mary, and a revelation from Him. Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and His messengers. You shall not say, ';Trinity.'; You shall refrain from this for your own good. GOD is only one god. Be He glorified; He is much too glorious to have a son. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. GOD suffices as Lord and Master. [5:73] Pagans indeed are those who say that GOD is a third of a trinity. There is no god except the one god. Unless they refrain from saying this, those who disbelieve among them will incur a painful retribution.

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