How many believe in the false doctrine trinity??

There is nowhere in the bible that i can find where there is a trinity nor 3 gods.All i see is where there is one god.Please show me scripture because i dont believe it.How many believe in the false doctrine trinity??
You are quite correct.





Jesus said in John 14:28 ';Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for %26gt;%26gt;%26gt;my Father is greater than I.';%26lt;%26lt;%26lt;





And in John 17:3 he makes a clear distinction between himself and God: ';And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.';





Jesus is the image of God, not God himself, and was created by God, as we read in Colossians 1:15 - ';Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature.';





Jesus in Revelation 3:12 mentioned four times that he HAS a God.





Jesus is the Son of the Most High God Almighty, according to Luke 1:32.


Jehovah is God Almighty according to Exodus 6:3.


Jehovah alone is Highest above the earth according to Psalm 83:18.How many believe in the false doctrine trinity??
Christians need to just give it up and believe that there is only one God and he has no partners or sons.
The Trinity is a Catholic belief that states that God, Jesus and the Holly Ghost are the same person in one body, but there are plenty of biblical evidence that says that they are three separated persons, if you read Luke 3:21-22 you will notice that the three of them were in three different places during the baptism of Jesus.
Blind belief is dangerous and destructive!. Bible tells us to prove things.


(I Thessalonians 5:21): “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”








The teachings of the Church contradict the teachings of Jesus (pbuh) and that is the cause of the confusion. If a sincere christian who wants to follow Jesus, asks priests about trinity, the answer that he gets is ';It is a Mystery, not explained by Jesus clearly';, at that time again those forget that Jesus said,





';I spoke openly to the world. I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where the Jews always meet, and in secret I have said nothing'; (John 18:20 (NKJ)).





There was no mystery in the message of Jesus, nothing secret. Will you accept the priests' so called ';mystery of trinity'; and forget clear commandments of Jesus? Trinity or divinity of Jesus to be anywhere close to basis of chritain faith would have to be there in bible in clear words in any even one book of bible, with Jesus saying I am God, worship me, which is not. Doesn't it mean something to you.


Jesus clearly said:





A) Mark 12:29: ';the Lord our God, the lord is One';.


B) Metthew: 26:39: ';He went a little farther and fell on His face and prayed'; (Following Jesus way is following what he did). Jesus prayed to one God


C) Matthew 4:10 ';You shall worship the Lord, your God, and him only you shall serve';


D) John 14:28 reads-- '; You heard that I said to you,I am going away and i am coming back to you. If you loved me , you would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father,BECAUSE THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN I AM';


E) Mark 13:32: ';But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.';


F) John 5:19: ';Most truly I say to you, the son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative but only what he beholds the father doing.';


G) Matthew 19:17. ';And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.';


H) Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me


John 7:16





What if Jesus were to ask these questions to you today:


Question 1. Why did u address your devotions to me instead it should have been to true God? Did I ever direct u to do it, or porpose myself as an object of religious worship?





Question 2 . When my disciples requested me to teach them to pray(Luke 11: 1-2),did I teach them to pray to myself or to any person but Father?








The trinity is a doctrine from about the year 325 AD, It has its roots in polytheism, pagan religion, and pagan philosophy (most probably added to christianity by humans to make it more acceptable to worshippers of more than one God). It is not in the bible unless you really, really stretch it to fit.





The New Catholic Encyclopedia - 1967, VOL. XIV, PAGE 299:





The formulation ';one God in three Persons'; was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, PRIOR TO THE END OF THE 4TH CENTURY. But it is precisely this formulation that first claimed to title ';The Trinitarian Dogma. AMONG THE APOSTOLIC FATHERS, THERE HAD BEEN NOTHING EVEN REMOTELY APPROACHING SUCH A MENTALITY OR PERSPECTIVE.








You should not accept the word “son” literally . Word ';son'; was used in bible for general human beings and other prophets also. ';we all are the children of father in heavens'; indicates that word ';son'; was used in different meaning of love and care.





Mathew: 5:9. ';Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the sons of God.”





Exodus 4:22.


“And thou (Moses) shalt say unto Pharaoh, thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn.”








The belief that Jesus died for our sins and salvation is gurarenteed for believers of Jesus is not what Jesus preached. It contradicts with interpretations and additions done by scribes/ historians centuries after Jesus.





Matt 5:20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness (your uprightness and your right standing with God) is more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.





There is no guranteed heaven for anyone, this life is a test, whether you pass and enter heaven or fail,.





Jesus said, ';I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.'; (Matthew 16:19)








Jesus, Moses, Mohammad (p.b.u.h), they all worshiped the same God, the God of Ibrahim. All prophets taught ';surrendering one's will to God'; that is the meaning of word ';Islam';. Word ';christianity'; did not exist at the time of Christ, but you will find Jesus teachings to be ';surrender your will to God'; in bible many times.





JAMES 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.








Mohammad (peace be upon him) was also a messenger of God, who never claimed to be God, the same way Jesus or Moses never claimed to be God, nor did they ever say worship me. There was just not one holy book sent by God on earth through His messengers. The last one had to be there to correct mistakes in the previous ones. The last testiment from the same author God.





If only the genuine followers of Jesus, who truly love him, read the Bible in context, and study the Qur’an, they will definitely reach the conclusion that GOD IS ONE, without any partners; and Jesus (pbuh) the son of Mary (pbuh) is a messenger of GOD!





Muslims love Jesus, they believe in his miraculous birth with the will of God without a father or sexual act (the way Adam was born without a mother and father), , they believe in miracles that Jesus performed with permission of God, muslims faith demands them to believe Jesus was a great prophet of God and belief in the original message of Jesus the massaya.





Qur’an, revealed to the Prophet Muhammed some 600 years after Jesus, (pbut) corrects the errors that crept (knowingly or unknowingly) into the message that Jesus brought. This book should prove to be a very valuable asset to both Muslims and Christians








The Holy Qur’an warns in Surah 5:73%26amp; 74: “They do blaspheme who say, Allah is Christ the son of Mary. But said Christ: O’ Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Whoever joins other gods with Allah- Allah will forbid him the garden, (i.e. paradise) and the fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong doers, be no one to help”. “Surely they are disbelievers, those who say: Allah is one of the three in a Trinity: But there is none who has the right to be worshiped but one God (i.e. Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily a painful torment will befall the disbelievers among them”.





Decide whether you love Jesus and want to follow his clear words and be saved, or love other human beings who gave different meaning to his original words. Reject any idea that makes you think of God in three distinct images or forms, follow Jesus and Mohammad p.b.u.h who said God is one, without any partner.





Does this answer some of your questions?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N48Ymna9q…


Find out the truth:


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muslimchristianialogue.pdf
It is not in one verse. You have to study the Bible and start putting what it says from verses and chapters together. And it does come together.


This kind of explains it.


Isaiah 28:10


For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line; here a little, and there a little.





Understanding doctrine comes slowly.
Pagans have a false doctrine of trinity.





Christians believe in Biblical doctrine of Trinity.
not me! thankfully! i beleive trinity doctrine is replacement theology. as a matter of fact, the doctrine evolved in the mid 1800's.
I don't think the Bible tells about computers either.
Matt 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.





Hopefully we can agree the voice was God the father. While God the father was speaking the spirit of God also descended on Jesus at the same time. You at least have a duality here. If you don't believe Jesus is God, post a follow-up and we can deal with that one next.





Actually I'll deal with Jesus now:





Matt 26:63 But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. 64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 65 Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy.





Jesus was asked point blank who he was and accused of blasphemy when he answered. He wasn't accused of blasphemy for claiming to be a mere man, how is that blasphemy?





And yes, the trinity is one God.





UPDATE: Saved: feel free to explain the correct interpretation of the scriptures I've posted.
This isn't even a legitimate question. It's leading and insulting.





Let's not talk about the tri-une nature of God. Rather, let's talk about your question.





Maybe I could ask YOU, ';Do you believe you should close the curtains before you sexually abuse your children?';





It's not an honest question at all! But it's just like yours, just more extreme to make sure you really get the point.





You want Scripture?


Genesis 1:1 (check out the original Hebrew).


Isaiah 48:16 (Even in English, it's obvious).


John 1:1 (tie this in with John 1:14).





There are a LOT more, but what's the point. You will continue to believe what you believe. So, you go ahead and continue believing what you believe, that's not my problem. But don't judge others who believe differently from you when you don't have all the facts!





Even the very word ';God'; in Hebrew, in which the Old Testament was written, is a pleural form of the word!





And quit tearing down straw men! It just makes YOU look foolish! Nobody says there are three gods! The only people who say that are people like you who attack that which you know nothing about!





And why do you say ';god'; instead of ';God';? That's far worse, you know!





And ';show me scripture because i dont believe it'; ??? Well, what's the point of showing you scripture (which I did already, if you want to take the time to look them up), when you've already decided you don't believe, and you won't believe, and that is because you don't WANT to believe the Scriptures!
I do not understand, nor believe the concept of the trinity, but that doesn't mean that others shouldn't have the right to believe it.





We should all strive to be respectful and tolerant of each other, no matter what we believe.
I don't believe it either. It doesn't match the Old testament at all.
Assalamualaikum (Peace be upon you)





Absolutely true, nowhere in the Bible does one find a mention of the trinity. However, you would find some Christians who would point to the following in the Bible:


';For there are three that bear record in heaven, the FATHER,


the WORD, and the HOLY GHOST: and these three are one.'; - 1st Epistle of John 5:7 - AV


However anybody who has heard about the RSV Bible will know that this verse was removed from it as a fabrication and an interpolation, but then some 30 years later it was put back into the King James Version as the Scholars felt they cannot break with tradition http://www.jamaat.net/bible/BibleIntro.h…


and we all know what the Book of Revelations says about those who remove or add words from the Bible. Besides, Jesus (peace be upon him) never preached the trinity, nowhere in the Bible in any version of the many versions, did Jesus (pbuh) say ';I am God'; or ';Worship me'; http://www.jamaat.net/gtnw/god.html, instead he preached the oneness of God and believed in the same one true God as we Muslims do http://www.islamcode.com/


The trinity was only agreed upon in the year 354 (Council of Nicea) and was mainly influenced by the pagan ideology that Constantine favoured and the pagan appeasement ideology that Paul (the self appointed disciple) favoured. The real Jesus (peace be upon him) preached the oneness of God


http://www.islamworld.net/ - Comparative Religion Section





Peace be upon you all
Nowhere in the Bible does it mentions Jesus has a penis now does it? But we can infer he does because he is a man.





In the same way, the Bible doesn't have to say ';God exists in three persons';, but we can infer base on the scriptures.
I believe in the trinity of GOD!! check out:


Gen 1 1-3


Is 40:13


Is 48:16


Judg 13:8-23


Prov 8 22-23


Is 6:3


Num. 6: 24 -27


Matt. 3:16-


John 14:26


John 15:26


Matt. 2819


2 Cor 13:


Gal. 4 : 4-6


It is '; PLURALITY '; of GOD'S NATURE!!
Trinity is a man made word but,


I believe in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit


these three are one


We see God in the Old Testament, Jesus in the Gospels and the Holy Spirit from Pentecost on


Revelation says. the Spirit and the Bride (us) say come
You are right it is not spelled out in scripture. It is a way christians have come to understand the references to a creator god, a savior god, and the Holy spirit god or counselor.





So leave them alone. If they need that what difference does it make to you.
I too do not see 3 gods in scripture. Only one.





The trinity is just another elaborate fabrication.
Isaiah 48:16


Matthew 3:16-17


Matthew 28:18-20


Luke 3:21-22


John 14:26, 16:13-15


2 Corinthians 13:14


Galatians 4:6


Ephesians 2:18, 4:4-6, 5:18-20


1 Peter 1:2


1 John 5:7





Whoever will be saved shall, above all else,


hold the catholic faith.


Which faith, except everyone keeps whole and undefiled,


without doubt he will perish eternally.


And the catholic faith is this,


that we worship one God in three persons


and three persons in one God,


neither confusing the persons


nor dividing the substance.


For there is one person of the Father,


another of the Son,


and another of the Holy Spirit.


But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all one:


the glory equal, the majesty coeternal.


Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit.


The Father uncreated,


the Son uncreated,


and the Holy Spirit uncreated.


The Father incomprehensible,


the Son incomprehensible,


and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible.


The Father eternal,


the Son eternal,


and the Holy Spirit eternal.


And yet there are not three eternals


but one eternal.


As there are not three uncreated nor three incomprehensibles


but one uncreated and one incomprehensible.


So likewise the Father is almighty,


the Son almighty,


and the Holy Spirit almighty.


And yet they are not three almighties


but one almighty.


So the Father is God,


the Son is God,


and the Holy Spirit is God.


And yet there are not three gods;


but one God.


So likewise the Father is Lord,


the Son Lord,


and the Holy Spirit Lord.


And yet they are not three lords


but one Lord.


For as we are compelled by the Christian truth to acknowledge every person by himself


to be both God and Lord,


So we cannot by the catholic faith


say that there are three Gods or three Lords.


The Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten.


The Son is of the Father alone, not made nor created;


but begotten.


The Holy Spirit is of the Father and of the Son, neither made nor created nor begotten


but proceeding.


So there is one Father, not three Fathers;


one Son, not three Sons;


one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits.


And in this trinity none is before or after another;


none is greater or less than another;


But the whole three persons


are coeternal together and coequal,


so that in all things, as is aforesaid,


the Unity in Trinity


and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshiped..


He, therefore, that will be saved is compelled thus to think of the Trinity.


Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation


that he also believe faithfully the incarnation


of our Lord Jesus Christ.


For the right faith is


that we believe and confess


that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God,


is God and man;


God of the substance of the Father,


begotten before the worlds;


and man of the substance of his mother,


born in the world;


Perfect God and perfect man,


of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting.


Equal to the Father as touching his Godhead,


and inferior to the Father as touching his manhood;


Who, although he is God and man,


yet he is not two but one Christ.


One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh,


but by taking the manhood into God;.


One altogether,


not by confusion of substance,


but by unity of person.


For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man,


so God and man is one Christ;


Who suffered for our salvation;


descended into hell;


rose again the third day from the dead.


He ascended into heaven;


he sits at the right hand of the Father, God Almighty,


from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead.


At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies


and will give an account of their own works.


And they that have done good will go into life everlasting;


and they that have done evil,


into everlasting fire.


This is the catholic faith which


except a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved.